Jinger Duggar likely won’t be tuning in when Taylor Swift‘s latest concert film drops.
“I was sitting there thinking, ‘OK, I’m glad my husband’s not here,’ for a couple sections where she went into sensual stuff,” Jinger, 31, told husband Jeremy Vuolo during the Wednesday, December 10, episode of their “Jinger & Jeremy” podcast, recalling when she saw the initial Eras Tour concert movie in theaters with friends.
The Counting On alum didn’t specify which song she was bothered by, but Swift, 36, turned up the heat with a sexy chair dance while performing “Vigilante S***” throughout her tour in a barely there bodysuit.
“I thought, ‘This is just really — it’s dark.’ It also felt like she was trying to communicate something that as Christians, I don’t think was pure,” Jinger continued.
Jinger also claimed she wasn’t sure the performances sent a positive message for the couple’s daughters. (Jinger and Jeremy, 38, share Felicity, 7, and Evangeline, 4, as well as son Finn, 8 months.)
“When you think of things through the lens of your kids, I also was like, ‘Man, I’m glad my daughter isn’t here too.’ Because she’s 7 and … she could look at that as like, ‘Oh, that’s who I want to be,’” Jinger explained. “And ultimately, all we want for her is to love Jesus.”
Jinger — who was raised under the strict conservative beliefs of the Institute in Basic Life Principles — added that music can be used as a form of self-expression.
“I’ve seen so many people do that in an awesome way,” she said. “[It] doesn’t mean all the songs have to be explicitly about Jesus.”
Earlier in the episode, Jeremy recalled when his wife was booked to speak at an event “some years ago,” but another participant refused to be on stage with her “because she listens to Taylor Swift.”
Jinger, however, declared she isn’t a big fan of the pop star and “wouldn’t even know a Taylor Swift song if I heard it.” According to the former reality star, the 2023 concert film was her “first exposure to Taylor Swift.”
Jinger admitted she was taken aback by the person’s hesitance to be associated with her because of Swift. “I literally knew hardly any of the songs,” she said.
As the conversation continued, Jeremy pointed out the “bigger issue” of being influenced by celebrity culture. He even quoted Kanye West before taking a swipe at Swift’s songwriting.
“Taylor Swift, you know, classically writes breakup songs and some [are] very good, some less helpful,” Jeremy said. “Why should I listen to her about politics? Is she a poli-sci expert? No, she just writes breakup songs. And yet for some reason, when she speaks, people take it authoritatively.”
Along with discussing Swift’s prominence in pop culture, the couple reflected on letting their children watch Disney movies, which some Christians believe are “demonic.” The pair noted that Jinger wasn’t raised on the magic of Disney in her own childhood.
“I think a lot of Christians think that things are going to overtake them unknowingly. And that’s kind of the setting I grew up in,” Jinger explained. “Superstition takes over. So you think, ‘If I engage with this darkness in any form, then it’s going to overtake me and I won’t even know it.’ And there’s a fear that can grip you. And that’s what I grew up thinking.”
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